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Speaking in a sober mind and from my reading, there are some complex justifications and explanations, many of which I wouldn't want to fully buy into very broadly, yet there could possibly be some situations where matters as in "date" don't get pressed into the commonly assumed conclusion and the one party "passes" for the other gender and the other accepts it at 'face value' which is often more than a little hard to believe, except for the bar at closing scenario.

In the matter of transvestites, I think your objection is well-placed, but I think there can be enough fuzziness to the lines for the scenarios of completed transsexuals that if he now has she plumbing, and passes for the other gender, that the then-she dates a guy, he could very legitimately be straight.

It really comes down to who is fooling, or trying to fool, whom. As you described, no one is really fooled, at least for long, with the transvestite, but with the completed transsexual, I suppose that would be called a successful transition unless the guy wants to have children, lol, then "she" would have some 'splaining to do.

Ugh the amount of ignorance in this question and in some of these answers is giving me such a headache. First off "tranny" and "shemale" are offense.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't know this and leave it at that. In the future if you don't want to be offense it'd be wise not to use these terms.

Second a man dates and is attracted to women isn't gay. Transwomen are women. I'll let you do the math on that one.

Third being transsexual doesn't at all relate to feeling like you should be a petite teenage girl or whatever other fantasy you have. Being transsexual is about having a gender identity that doesn't match the body you were born with.

Studies done on transwomen have shown that our brains are the same as other women's brains and the same goes for transmen only reversed.

Everyone has a gender identity that is set at birth and can't be changed. Don't believe it? To sum that case up, it didn't take.

All the years of being told and solialized as a female made no difference, he still felt male. Also consider intersex people that despite being intersex still have a strong male or female identity.

Our gender is about what's in our heads not what's between our legs or what chromosomes we have. To construct attraction Joshua Pellicer the author of the book describes in his guide how you will need to work with banter to really make the discussion fun, playful and material free and because of this you might find a lot of example banter lines thrown in this guide.

Joshua also teaches you how essential are to show value to a lady and how you should never try to sell yourself through bragging.

You have to look past the fact that someones gender doesn't necessarily mean what is between their legs.

Physically, with a lot of trans women or men for that matter you wouldn't be able to tell they were trans unless somebody told you anyway.

Not everybody would be able to get passed the fact that they weren't born female, but I'm sure there are lots of straight guys that would be able to.

Not pretending to understand or know what a transgendered persons goes through. But for all purposes, if male this person is a female. So, after surgery is completed - this person is now a woman.

I don't understand how it feels to be a transsexual, since I am not. But imagine being in their shoes. Could you image being trapped in the wrong body?

Not to mention how horrible the general population treats them, as if it's their fault. They have such courage. Gay men have sex with men with male genitalia.

Straight men have sex with women with female genitalia. If a man dates, or is attracted to, or has sex with a she male, I would call him bisexual.

A she male usually refers to a person with male genitalia and breast surgery, who appears female in terms of hair, clothing, etc. In other words, looks like a woman except when the panties come off.

A man that has sexual relations with the male part of the person, and sexual feelings and touching of the persons female type breasts, would be bisexual.

A gay man wouldn't like the titties, but would go for the rod, a sraight man wouldn't want anything to do with the penis. Why do gay men think they can seduce a straight guy but freak out if a woman tries to seduce them.

No because your gay gay gay. Yes, i agree. How do seduce this guy whos tough loves women but still a virgin. Like he tough. Dumb lol, adventourus, and etc.

I know those feelings so, so well! It's all good man. You sound like you have your head and your heart in the right place. If that truth you speak of is coming from your heart, then you will know the right moment to tell him all of this I would say, "if I were you So, sum up for yourself all that you feel, all that you think he needs from you, then maybe ask him.

Ask him if he's got any feelings that are confusing him. Does he feel totally hetero? Does he like a bit of fun with a guy?

How does he feel about you? You are going to have to work it out using your best instincts. I know what you are probably feeling; will these questions send him packing, and cause the friendship between you to break?

From what you have said, I doubt it -- but hell! It's hard one! I lust for him all the time. I want to feel his gorgeous body but I have never touched him.

PS: this is only my opinion of course, a bit old fashioned you might think, and you are free to throw it out if you please.

But sometimes I need to speak my truth. Lust usually has no concern for the welfare of the other person. It is selfish, period. If you are really responsible, you will first and foremost consider what is best for that young man.

You might question him on what are his real and immediate needs in life. You could ask him about his hopes, his ambitions, how things are going for him.

Seek to help in that way, and put your own lust aside at least until you have served his needs before your own. I am not saying "don't desire.

But as humans, we are gifted with brains with which to understand and to modify our basic instincts. Considering the needs of others before our own is what makes our society "civilised.

I know this really sexy good looking muscular young guy who is He likes to talk to me about regular stuff , sometimes his school problems.

I give him advice. I really want to have sex with him. I think he knows I'm gay. Should I make a move? I am conflicted, he is so cute and innocent!

The only way you will know is if you take it another step forward. He might be a virgin. That would be good.

Some guys come over as all 'rugged' but in an instant you know whether they are a taker or giver. As to you being 'scared',what can he do? Punch you?

Maybe fuck you? It's all O. It doesn't matter,you are you. I just found out a guy I had an enormous crush on and I thought was as straight as the day is long,has a boyfriend.

But seriously. Kevin, you say you are not gay, or bi That is absolutely fine. I don't question you on that or judge you for it.

I am not qualified or entitled to do so. I don't think anyone else is either. YOU, with all your faculties about you, all your inbuilt sense of what is right for you and him, are in control and able to make full judgment of yourself and your actions.

Is everything we are doing together enjoyable? Or do either of us feel dirty, or bad, or guilty about anything we do?

Is anyone else getting hurt by what we are doing? Is it necessary for us to lie to others about what we are doing?

What effect, if any, is our lying to others having upon their lives? If there is any feeling of guilt, does this in itself have a negative impact upon our lives in relation to others?

You see, regardless of the sexual activity or any fun that ANYONE gets up to, whether it be hetero-, homo-, bi-, trans-, cross-dressing, whatever If the "other" party or parties who might be drawn into the deceit are oblivious to what is going on then they have no control over it.

Then every responsibility falls on your shoulders. It all, in my estimation, falls down upon your own responsibilities and choices.

If you give away the judgment for some one else to make, then you can't shoulder the judgment and you must suffer the consequences.

If you take all the responsibility upon yourself and act accordingly, then you will grow in stature as an adult. Hello guys its me James again haha looking to meet guys who are in the same boat as me and would like to hook up if you know what i mean ;.

Email me if anyone is interested. Hello guys i like two of my best friends and i get hints but iam to scared to follow through plz some one email me and help me.

Hi Viruss. Have you had good experiences that are worth remembering and that left you feeling great? With both guys and gals?

Which do you prefer? Im sorry if I've written too much info.. I was just too confused of what is happening with me and my friend..

I think he wants to suck me too.. I want to talk to him about what he really wants I am in a similar situation, since I see so many awesome straight guys around.

Usually afraid to open the subject with them, but just occasionally I score something like a full body massage with them. They like my touch, too!

I have a straight guy friend and we're actually close. He sometimes comes to my house to drink or smoke up. I really thought of having sex with him out of curiosity.

He's a triathlete and I think he's hot. I just don't have the courage to ask him before but when I read this article, I think it's a push this time.

The problem is I think he's starting to fall for me. We hang out a lot more than he goes out with his girlfriend.

I think I like him but I can't imagine falling for him too without more positive signs that he likes me too. I was going to use these steps but now after when I saw this comment from gay is a lie but now I am stping bieng gay I am never going there again the lord will punish you for this I will stop now In the name of jesus in the holy fathers name may.

You all stop bieng gay it ia adultry and the bible saya do not commite adultry with other men and you shall be punished. I have this friend at school.

He transferred about 3 years ago and on his first day I started to talk to him a little bit and we became friend. I now class him as a best friend but I don't know whether he does.

Before, he said he'd share a place with me when we're older and stuff and when we're in the same classes he talks and sit by me and gets disappointed if I don't see a seat by him and sit somewhere else.

He always looks me in the eyes and jokes around with me but then my interfering friend got involved and told him that a guy liked him and because he doesn't know her well, he just replied saying he liked girls but I really think that something else is going on but he's too nervous to say anything because his friends are a macho bunch of dicks.

When she told him a guy liked him, he guessed me straight away but she said it wasn't and then since then, he barely answers me on Facebook and although I try to tease-flirt, he doesn't answer or even look at my messages..

Should I act clueless and ask if there's anything wrong between us when we're alone together or if he's sick of me etc.? It's really hard because I love him and know how well we go together because we like all the same things but he just doesn't seem to realise it and it breaks my heart because I know how well we could be together.

I help him with everything I can to try and get him on my side but he just thanks me and doesn't try to do anything else. If he would answer me, I would ask him to go to the park or something on a nice day and just tell him that I think I like him but I think that'll ruin any chances I have of being a friend with him.

I've like him and gotten over him 3 times and everytime I fall back in love with him, it's stronger and the urges get worse and the come-downs are terrible from it.

Should I tell him? How can I get him? Someone with a little more experience please help! I said "no.. I'm just too afraid to ask him about it..

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You Can Do It! Getting a Straight Guy to Bat for Your Team 1 Take Charge: If you're a guy trying to seduce a man who identifies as heterosexual, it's important to know that no matter how open-minded the straight guy is, nothing will ever come of it unless YOU are in the driving seat.

To Conclude The most important rules when seducing a straight guy or anyone, in fact! What's Your Experience? Yes, and it worked like a charm!

I've tried, but no luck so far. I've never had the guts. See results. These, are some points that may help you to succeed in the seduction.

I need to try it,I really want to hook up with some black studs i know. Just to provide his vipe. He's fine with that, he told me, I can do whatever I want.

Well hi there Pedro. Just hope you get what i mean That being said, everyone has got two extremes of themselves.

So he might be gay Either way, you cannot tell without probing. Are you ready to put what you have to the test?

If so, then all I can say is good luck. Hope he is just being the hard to get type. Hope this helps too :.

Hi Bennet and Lukey Really glad I was able to help. Wish you all the best :. I have tried so many times to get seduduced and have tried to seduce guys with no luck.

I so want play but can't find guys to play. I mix with a lot of guys and want suck and be sucked. I am considered good looking. What can I do to be seduced or seduce?

What is the easiest way to separate a guy from his "pack"? I have this friend that I've had a crush on,and I was wondering if the steps would work cause today I asked if he was gay and he just playfully pushed me away, if these steps don't work can some recommend something My Kik is deme50 p.

Hi ave read yur ideas and am impressed lookin forward to more. I keep trying these steps but the only guys I'm seducing r the wrong ones :.

I like this dude at work and I been with straight men before, but he make me nerves. This might sound old-fashioned but I say this to all of you.

You have young life, young brains, lots of energy. You want and need lots of fun. Learn the basics of life, how to mix with and respect other people.

Learn to look after your self. Learn to cook your self a good healthy and nourishing meal. All these things you need to learn before you are 18 years old.

From an old man that cares. You're right about lust! Although my desire is physical, I think I love him emotionally too!

But we have a different kind of bond I am much older to be his friend He respects me and asks me for advice and I love to help him out Which is why I am so conflicted- It would break our bond But I really want him- Should I tell him the truth?

Wishing you well. You sort out your own desires I'm so felt so scared when i try that! Im straight but curious.

Okay thank you I suppose the worst that could happen is that he doesn't want to do it! Hi Jack, The only way you will know is if you take it another step forward.

A few questions you can ask your self: Am I imposing my self on this other guy against his wishes? Is he trying to impose him self upon me, against MY wishes?

Is it inherently "bad" to have fun and enjoy ourselves? Just my personal understanding of your situation I'm straight but if a guy tried this with me he'd have me in bed in no time.

Gian, what you are writing here is just not appropriate for public discussion here. There are ways of discussion this subject while keeping it reasonable and acceptable.

This is only my opinion, others might differ of course. Wow, this has been such a hugely successful Hub. Well done, jamadeus! I had a friend of mine which is now my boyfriend was completely hot and cute.

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